“Wait, Is This a Date?” Podcast Episode 209: Bottoming with Chingy | Autostraddle

Let us make some sound when it comes down to soles in your house! (It really is myself, the bottom in the home.) Bottom Culture happens to be quite something™ using the internet recently! Exactly what will it really suggest becoming a bottom? Why has the culture determined bottoming is synonymous with getting afraid to ask for what you need? And just how does one start choosing when they fancy bottoming?!

With all of these concerns rattling around the brains, requiring responses, Drew and I knew there was singular individual we could head to for a curved, passionate conversation about bottoming: The Gay Chingy AKA Chingy Nea, AKA The Bottom Supreme. Chingy is just one of the finest individuals I know writing and tweeting now, and as a bottom my self, I am recognized to phone the woman my personal leader. Chingy helps us tease aside exactly what it means to be a bottom, why she detests “smol bean” bottom tradition, your system as hole, along with your body as

entire

. It’s a truly beautiful dialogue, easily do say-so myself personally! Please realize that i realize that I say “gorgeous” around three thousand times this episode, and I am getting assistance for my personal problem. (the problem is actually speaking like 57 year-old white gay man.)

And! Recently’s online game entails me speculating in the event that challenging plots Drew describes belong to a film or an aspiration she had circa 2006. It is hard!


SHOW RECORDS

+ Browse Chingy’s
Bottom Manifesto
, follow the woman
on Twitter
and
IG
!

+is a listing of all of the movies that received used in her game:


  • The Seventh Seal

    (1937)

  • Mentioning Baby

    (1938)


  • Pierrot le Fou


    (1965)

  • Ebony Swan

    (2010)

+Watch Anna Faris do the greatest work of the woman career in

Smiley Face!


+Let

Shohreh Aghdashloo talk you to definitely rest while dressed as Chrisjen


Avasarala


from

The Expanse

because you are entitled to that.


+Cindy Wilson of this B52s is fairly hot and honestly? “Love Shack” nevertheless whips!


+
Robert Mitchum
, stone cold fox.



EPISODE


Chingy

: I just been bottoming since I had been, I am not sure, dating back I am able to keep in mind.


Drew

: Cue Rags to wealth from

Goodfellas.


Chingy

: dating back I’m able to bear in mind, I always desired to end up being a base, no, but types of

[intro plays]


Drew

: Hi, I Am Drew.


Christina

: I’m Christina.


Drew

: Welcome to

Wait, Is It a night out together

?


Christina

:

Hold off, So Is This a Date?

is actually an Autostraddle podcast centered on the one, the only the largest question of your occasions: Wait, Is This a Date?


Drew

: And, wow, i truly only froze up here.


Christina

: I happened to be like, oh crap, I happened to be meant to state anything! [laughs]


Drew

: i am actually quick toward banter, my mind just… The truth is that I found myself reading over my personal game records, which we aren’t at however because we still have to introduce our selves. Therefore, i will attempt to remain focused on one job at one time.


Christina

: Focus up!


Drew

: i’m Drew Gregory, i’m a writer for Autostraddle, and a filmmaker, and a trans woman.


Christina

: Hi, I am Christina Tucker, forgot my personal last title for a hot min, no big issue. I’m in addition an author at Autostraddle along with other locations online, a podcaster, a gay black woman. That’s type of it, puppy, that’s me.


Drew

: i really like it. Okay, now we-


Christina

: today the online game.


Drew

: are we able to have fun with the online game?


Christina

: are we able to get to the game? I’m able to reveal’re thrilled, I could tell you’re just shaking.


Drew

: very, I’ve been maintaining a dream diary since 2007, and the premise for this game is actually-


Christina

: I didn’t know this about you!


Drew

: Yes, it isn’t really as updated now, I regularly take note of all my hopes and dreams now it’s only when anything really sticks. But, the assumption with this online game is, am I explaining the storyline of an aspiration I got when I was actually a teenager, or am I describing the land of a film that I adored whenever I had been a teenager?


Christina

: Oh guy, fine.


Drew

: So, the way in which it’s going to get is I’ll constantly explain it as an aspiration and also in the very first individual. Therefore, when it ended up being

Star Wars,

I would end up like, i am in space and I also’m combating within a rebellion, there’s an evil  man who is using a black robot suit also it turns out he’s my dad. That is the way I’ll describe it, the way we describe fantasies, but sometimes it is going to be a dream, often it’ll end up being from a motion picture. Prepared?


Christina

: I’m one thing, I don’t know that i am prepared, but why don’t we rock. Let’s see what I can perform right here.


Drew

: Okay, I’m on a beach and that I see this odd guy dressed in black. The guy informs me he’s dying so we can take advantage of a-game to decide easily live or if perhaps the guy requires me. We manage to break free, but every-where I go, individuals are unwell and I also feel like dying continues to be soon after me.The only pleased component happens when I meet a theater troupe and they’re lots of fun.


Christina

: This,In my opinion, is actually an aspiration.


Drew

: This would be Ingmar Bergman’s

The Seventh Seal

from 1957.


Christina

: it is will be a genuine gotcha on CT’s classic movie expertise, because everything I know that Drew, in your adolescence, had not been undertaking ended up being watching flicks that i will identify. At this stage, I’m method of wanting that I have seen not one of them. In my opinion that’ll be more pleasurable for my situation.


Drew

: The second one, i am interviewing my children many Italian US gangsters. One of many gangsters needs that I give more than some cash, but my children and I been able to break free. We run away through this all snowy terrain, on the way we satisfy an actress and relate to the lady. We end in a suburb. In my opinion we will start a brand new existence together until she requires us to a large residence, and that I understand it is one of the gangster. It was all a trap, the gangster arrives so there’s a confrontation. We eliminate him, the fantasy comes to an end with all the celebrity doing a musical number.


Christina

: Is it a film?


Drew

: this will be a dream I had in 2008.


Christina

: Okay, wow. Boy, yeah, i assume i need to remember that it is 2000, it is old school Drew head. That’s what i need to bear in mind.


Drew

: additionally love, what flicks was actually I seeing at the time and just how much performed that effect my personal goals?


Christina

: Well, yeah, clearly quite a bit!


Drew

: an enjoyable simple truth is that I happened to be actually, i did not feature this simply because I thought this might provide it with out, nevertheless the gangster was Tony Soprano because I became enjoying

The Sopranos

in 2008. Therefore, which is a great little reality. Okay, next one, We have a significant project, but this hot girl turns up and begins distracting me. I do want to end up being together with her, but I also really should get might work done, thus I inform the girl to exit. She keeps soon after me personally. Out of the blue, a leopard appears in my area and I have to spend the rest of the fantasy trying to find the leopard. I am nevertheless actually stressed, I never complete my work, but no less than the girl is hot.


Christina

: it’s getting an aspiration of yours, this has become a Drew dream.


Drew

: It Is Howard Hawks’

Discussing Baby

from 1938.


Christina

: No, but that’s a dream of yours, this is the the majority of Drew fantasy i have have you ever heard. Today at this point, i am simply gonna be rewriting movie history, to suit my whims.


Drew

: Great, I love that. Okay, I’m at an event and I also you shouldn’t like any person there. At long last, I see this lady, I used to have a crush on so we opt to leave together. We choose the woman household, but they are chased down from this gang of guys that happen to be attempting to kill the woman. We become on a beach and it seems like we are going to be fine up until the guys find united states. She ends up becoming into this some other guy, and so I grab cartoonish dynamite and decide to strike my self up


Christina

: Film.


Drew

: this might be! It is Jean Luc Goddard’s

Pierrot le Fou

, from 1965.


Christina

: haven’t seen, but that seems like a ding dang film to me.


Drew

: Great, I like it. There’s a narration explaining an odd vessel like design which is impractical to destroy. I want on a retreat around the framework, the escape is kind of theater relevant, kind of spiritual. I have a crush with this lady at the retreat, but this lady has a boyfriend. Amid the activities and traditions, there are many crisis between myself and that lady along with her boyfriend, it ends up beside me alone. There’s been a sequence exposing that ship framework is actually impractical to ruin because a mechanical arm fixes it for the night.


Christina

: which can be anything in so many methods, i will state motion picture again, why don’t you?


Drew

: really an aspiration from 2011, that performed have narration from somebody else, you are sure that, it happens!


Christina

: This is really good promo getting a dream record, because personally i think like it could well be fun if I could keep in mind my personal dreams this way.


Drew

: no one likes as soon as you describe your desires for them. I actually do however, and I’m your friend, if you would you like to record the aspirations and let me know, i’d want to hear about all of them.


Christina

: Okay, that’s really nice to hear.


Drew

: You will find two even more.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: I’m in a beautiful yard with a team of friends, we appear to be getting out of bed from getting drugged. We’re compelled to bathe in an acid that drains pigment so we be gothic and blue-eyed. The folks responsible begin training united states to kill, it turns out this one will be operated by a crazy dictator, I resist acquiring completely brainwashed. There is this girl truth be told there You will find a crush on and I also convince this lady to escape with me, while leaking out I have recorded and slain, nevertheless woman gets out. Whenever she makes the prison, she realizes we are in the center of a forest generally there’s no place to visit.


Christina

: Movie.


Drew

: that will be initial dream in my fantasy record from, I said, “2007.” That it is 2006.


Christina

: Wow.


Drew

: i believed it actually was fascinating that we pass away when you look at the fantasy, but the other person continues on. The good news is, absolutely some weird gender things taking place truth be told there, and that I’m probably have to consider this one for some time.


Christina

: Seriously accomplish that.


Drew

: Okay, I have an additional.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: I’ve been given the possiblity to end up being a dancer, my mother claims I won’t have the ability to take action. Absolutely this some other lady inside tv series exactly who I think is hot, but I’m nervous she’s going to change myself. I am having difficulties in rehearsal, but-end up leaving aided by the woman, we attach. It’s really hot, but I believe myself dropping control, we go back to the dance show. My body system appears to be morphing into something different, I’m stressed that i’ll mess-up.


Christina

: this is certainly a motion picture.


Drew

: So,

Ebony Swan

.


Christina

: Yes, that is

Black Swan

, definitely.


Drew

: Have you ever viewed

Black Swan

? That was one I thought you observed.


Christina

: I’ve come across

Black Swan

, I… Fun reality, I went on a date with men to see

Ebony Swan

.


Drew

: Wow.


Christina

: Just straight circumstances I did.


Drew

: the thing that was that like?


Christina

: crazy, it actually was weird.


Drew

: Did you like the movie? Performed the guy such as the motion picture?


Christina

: i believe, I got currently observed it, I think I became love, “Let’s go notice it once again.” I believe, I was very pro

Ebony Swan,

as well as for directly heterosexual explanations, truly.


Drew

: Sure, okay.


Christina

: And, he was like, “that has been strange.” And I also ended up being like, “Oh well, we’re not likely to continue to big date.”


Drew

: Wow, well I wish him top, I hope he is somewhere doing well. Thank-you for playing the game with me.


Christina

: Wow, i am very pleased we went two for but numerous we did on that.


Drew

: maybe not awful.


Christina

: perhaps not awful.


Drew

: You Probably Did a lot better than Elise did once I wanted to find out if this is a practical video game that may operate, and she had been my guinea pig. Very, she just had gotten one right.


Christina

: reasonable enough.


Drew

: Should we move on to all of our main subject associated with the week?


Christina

: let us go into it, let us fully grasp this special guest in.


Drew

: Well, I would like to very first say that all of our main subject of the week is actually bottoming, so we could only have one extremely special visitor.


Christina

: It’s only one individual.


Drew

: are you able to please introduce your self?


Chingy

: Hi, I’m Chingy Nea, otherwise known as The Gay Chingy. I’m an author, Filmmaker, and gasian leather-based dyke muppet. I will be in addition The united states’s number one base.


Christina

: Yes, i do believe as soon as we happened to be talking about subjects and in addition we’re like, “we can easily talk about bottoming and there’s practically singular individual we can easily have on pod to do so, there is only 1 one who is very practically the Supreme.”


Chingy

: Thank you for identifying, it feels very good having your success respected, thank-you


Christina

: Yes, while’ve done great work, and here the audience is acknowledging it.


Drew

: i wish to understand as soon as you feel like you turned into The united states’s greatest base. When had been that a word and a label and an identity you actually conducted onto?


Chingy

: Well, therefore I often just state, “I’m underneath Supreme.” Because, who cares about The usa?


Drew

: Yes.


Christina

: reasonable sufficient.


Chingy

: Yeah, i do believe that I always really was great at bottoming, but in 2017 or something, I went to a play party which was just for fem top sadists beating me up for six to seven hrs directly, plus it was just me personally, and that I ended up being like, “Oh, I’m the greatest that is previously been.” Then, I think after that, i recently kept escalating and being, wow, I’m therefore fun to look at. Wow, I’m so engaging as a bottom, this will be wow, everyone who extends to finest me personally is indeed happy. And, it just went following that, I think, right after which I typed a write-up also known as i am a far greater Bottom Than You. Discover Why. It had been type of a manifesto, it absolutely was a bottom manifesto.


Christina

: Yes, can verify.


Chingy

: And, many individuals have actually explained, “It really is altered the way they see intercourse.” And, I really like that many. It is the one article to my site that i have created there. I have authored at

Vice

,

Teenage Fashion

,

Vulture

—

Autostraddle

was actually initial spot I had written, actually. But yeah, this is the one weblog to my website, if you wish to take a look.


Christina

: Everyone loves a substantial brand name, Everyone loves once you understand a brand name, and I genuinely believe that’s truly attractive, simply, brand management of your personal bottomy your self. I think, which is really breathtaking to see.


Chingy

: thanks, i obtained my basic writing chance at

Autostraddle

because I happened to be writing about getting a base, being poly, and being actually deep into becoming a fabric dyke. And because subsequently, I started initially to write about a lot of other activities, but becoming bottom supreme only type may be the one through line of it all.


Christina

: Yes.


Drew

: I additionally feel just like you’re a rather energetic bottom and in how which you reveal, and speak about, and I also presume experience bottoming that you’re very active. Whereas, i do believe there’s a lot of the queer neighborhood, perhaps, especially the lesbian society, that possibly thinks of bottoming as… I’m not sure-


Chingy:

Passivity

.


Christina

: Mm-hmm

(Affirmative)

.


Drew

: Yeah.


Chingy

: Yeah, we usually point out that absolutely a lot less soles than men and women believe are soles. I believe there’s a difference between getting a bottom and just not knowing or requesting what you need. I think those are a couple of completely different things that individuals conflate.


Christina

: I would need to concur, I also believe the way in which you explore bottoming is, I mean, let’s just say it, plenty less inconvenient compared to method more and more people explore being a base or recognize with bottom part tradition. Because, I do believe exactly what a lot of people are saying clearly or non clearly is simply, I am lazy plus don’t care accomplish any kind of motion, activity, et-cetera, i’d like circumstances done to myself. And, if I need to look for that in in any manner, that hurts my emotions. And, you happen to be brilliant and thus effective at being, they are the issues that i’d like, bring these to me and that I will rock your own world. Which gorgeous in my opinion.


Chingy

: thanks, after all, that is what you have to do to be good at just some thing, you have to place your self out there and attempt and make blunders and obtain damage a bit, and, I don’t know, learn from it.


Christina

: In my opinion that’s an excellent information, honestly.


Chingy

: I simply been bottoming since I have was, I’m not sure, dating back to i could keep in mind. [laughs]


Drew

: Cue “Rags to wealth” from

Goodfellas

.


Chingy

: Yeah, as far back as i could bear in mind, i usually wanted to be a bottom. No, but variety of, whenever I had been 13 or 14, I was currently examining SADO MASO websites and lesbian SADOMASOCHISM web pages. Therefore, I wasn’t under any delusions by what I happened to be pertaining to, I was having girls I dated in twelfth grade choke me personally down, I understood the thing I wished. Therefore, that standard of consciousness has just given me quite a while to understand what i would like and learn how to obtain it.


Christina

: Beautiful, received, provide me how you feel on bottoming.


Drew

: Well, I’m actually truly thrilled to share with you this simply because personally i think like in 2019 {when I|as I|while
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